On the 100th episode of his House of Hardcore podcast, Tommy Dreamer spoke to his longtime rival, Raven. During the discussion the two on-screen enemies discussed a variety of topics including Raven’s early time in ECW.
“As soon as I saw (ECW), the first episode I saw I was like ‘this is the best TV show I’ve ever seen, I gotta to be on this,'” Raven said. “I called Page to call Paul E because I didn’t know Paul E. I didn’t know his number and I didn’t think he liked me anyway. I figured DDP has always been a good friend to me. He called Paul E and Paul E hired me to put you (Dreamer) over.”
Raven continued to say that Paul Heyman had a different understanding of the Raven character at first.
“He thought it was going to be like a comedy gimmick. He didn’t really get where I was going,” Raven continued.
Raven Says Paul Heyman Saw Himself Through Dreamer and Raven
Raven continued to say that once Heyman got the character, he started to see himself in it.
“Bookers always see themselves through a certain wrestler’s eyes. Like Vince sees himself through Lex Luger, The Patriot and the Million Dollar Man. That’s who he views the world through and Paul E saw the world through my eyes and (Dreamer’s) eyes.”
Tommy Dreamer and Raven Comment On Their Rivalry
Dreamer and Raven then spoke about his favorite parts about the rivalry.
“My favorite thing part about the Raven/Dreamer feud, was you were a very giving heel,” Dreamer said.
“I’m a giving lover too,” Raven interrupted to add.
“Behind the scenes, it was all about to make the match better. It wasn’t like you wanted to get yourself over,” Dreamer continued.
Dreamer and Raven then spoke about what each other meant to their careers.
“Without you there would be no Tommy Dreamer. You had an amazing mind for what I would say is layering a finish,” Dreamer continued.
“You were the perfect dance partner,” Raven said. “I couldn’t have had a better dance partner to open up my new career with.”
Dreamer and Raven went through much of their long feud with one another during the podcast. The full discussion between Raven and Tommy Dreamer can be viewed in the player below:
