Earlier this week, we had a chance to chat with Brodie Lee, the Exalted One of AEW’s Dark Order. During the discussion, we asked how he got involved with the Dark Order, the group’s ultimate goal in AEW and why he does not consider them a cult.

“I’ve known Evil Uno and Stu Grayson for the better part of 15 years,” Brodie said during the interview. “We’ve worked together in promotions like C4, Chikara, and upstate New York too. So, I’ve known them, I’ve been in contact with them the entire time they’ve been in AEW. Been watching what they do.

“It was just a good almost piece for me to jump in and try to take something to the next level. Unfortunately, since I’ve been here I’ve seen Uno and Grayson once in the past 2 months just because they’re from Canada and they haven’t been able to get across the border yet. But I think once we’re back together, people will understand and see what a formidable unit we are together.”

The Dark Order’s End Game

We asked Brodie about what the plans are for his Dark Order.

“I don’t want to be a violent organization, that’s not my M.O,” Brodie said. “It kind of becomes a necessity when you are in the professional wrestling world. And to me, you enter the professional wrestling world is to have power and what power equals in professional wrestling is world titles, and tag team championships, and TNT championships now.”

“So, I think our goal is to collect gold and to be a force to be reckoned with. I know the Elite claims to be the elite, they named a frigging promotion after themselves. So, to me, it’s almost like now you’re at the top, just like Jon Moxley, you put a mark on your head and us as a group we think we’re better than that and we think that we’re powerful, we want power, we want the glory. World championships, TNT championships, and tag-team championships are always in our future.”

Dark Order: Cult or Corporation?

Finally, we asked Brodie Lee why he does not consider the Dark Order to be a cult. He flipped the question on our interviewer and asked if SEScoops.com is a cult.

(Editor’s note: For the record, SEScoops is not a cult)

“Who do you work for?” Brodie asked. “Do you have a boss? Would you consider what you do as part of a cult? So then, what is the difference between what you’re doing in your line of work and what we’re going in our line of work?”

We attempted to explain that it seems as though the Dark Order preys upon the down-and-out people.

“Well that’s a strong possibility but the thing is, we’re making those people better in the long run. I mean, I’m undefeated. Uno and Stu are undefeated. Preston was undefeated until last night so I don’t understand, I think results speak for themselves. I don’t understand what difference a successful organization with a wonderful leader like myself, would make it a cult.”

“Tony Schiavone was given clear instructions and I understand you were probably not given the same instructions so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. But Schiavone was given clear instructions not to ask that question and they actually cut out two other times that he brought it up and left the third one in there.

“The way they cut it of course, they left my little tantrum in there which I wasn’t thrilled about but hey, I thought I got my message across. And again, I asked Tony this too, he works for many corporations and they’re not considered cults, so I don’t understand what the difference is.”

Brodie Lee challenges Jon Moxley for the AEW World Championship at Double or Nothing. Order the PPV now at BR Live (US) and FITE.TV (Internationally).

Brodie Lee challenges Jon Moxley for the AEW World Championship this Saturday night at AEW Double or Nothing.

Just days before the biggest match of his career, The Exalted One spoke with SEScoops about how he’s preparing for the bout.

“It’s a lot of cardio right now,” he began. “Having not been in the ring for the better part of a year almost, I think I had 7 matches last year in WWE and maybe 3 at the end of the year and then 0. I’ve had 1 match over 3 minutes this year. So, it’s a lot of cardio, a lot of preparing myself for a long battle.”

“I know exactly what Jon Moxley is going to bring. He’s very violent, he likes to punch you in the face right away. So I think that’ll snap me out of any kind of slumber I might be in real quick. And I know he’s going to bring a level of violence that I have to be prepared for and I am prepared for that because I’m not afraid of violence.”

He then revealed that his wife is concerned about what will transpire at Double or Nothing.

“Before I left the house on Tuesday, my wife told me ‘you and Jon Moxley scare me.’ I think she knows and hopefully the fans know that when we link it up it’s going to be something, I guess, terrible, is a good description.”

There’s no doubt that Jon Moxley will bring the violence. However, Brodie Lee feels he has the advantage when it comes to size, agility and instability.

“I know I have the size advantage, I maybe have the agility advantage,” he continued. “He probably thinks he’s a little more violent than me but there’s definitely something wrong up here [in his head].”

Thanks to Brodie Lee for chatting with us. You can check out our full interview below.

Order AEW Double or Nothing at BR Live (US) and FITE.TV (Internationally). Catch AEW Dynamite Wednesday nights on TNT.

Earlier this week, we had a chance to speak with the #1 contender to the AEW World Championship, “The Exalted One” Brodie Lee. He faces Jon Moxley in the main event of Saturday night’s AEW Double or Nothing pay-per-view.

We had the chance to sit down with AEW’s Brodie Lee recently for an exclusive interview. During the discussion, we asked Brodie about the possibility of his former teammate Erick Rowan‘s recent release from WWE.

“I think Erick’s a wonderful human being, he’s a wonderful father, which is strange to say if you look at him,” he said jokingly. “We weren’t always the best of friends early on in our tenure together but we became really good friends by the end. Somehow we always seem to find each other, at least for the last 8 years.”

Brodie Lee then continued to talk about what might come next for some of the recent WWE releases.

“I think it’s going to be very refreshing to him and a guy like Zack Ryder/Matt Cardona, I think it’s going to be very refreshing to them to be out of that bubble and to understand now the freedom that they have creatively. Ryder especially, who’s done it before on his own, he’s one of the most creative people you’ll ever meet.”

“As soon as I was released, it’s almost a weight off your shoulders. WWE gives you so much but as soon as its over, it’s almost either panic or opportunity arises. It can be both but you have to learn to adjust and take it in as it comes.”

Lee then said he feels Erick Rowan likely has a run in Japan coming up. Rowan has a history wrestling in the country, having trained at the Pro Wrestling NOAH dojo earlier in his career.

“I think Erick Rowan is almost tailor-made for a Japan run. I don’t know if we’ll ever find each other over there because that would be pretty cool. Or if we’ll find each other in AEW, who knows? I think there’s going to be a lot of opportunity for these guys.”

Order AEW Double or Nothing at BR Live (US) and FITE.TV (Internationally). Catch AEW Dynamite Wednesday nights on TNT.

Check out our full 18-minute interview with The Exalted One, Brodie Lee:

AEW star and leader of the Dark Order Brodie Lee recently appeared on SiriusXM’s Busted Open Radio. The former WWE Superstar would discuss a litany of topics from his short time with the All Elite promotion, as well as leaving him WWE earlier this year.

One of the topics discussed with Brodie Lee was the level of talent in the AEW locker room. The now Exalted One will be challenging for the AEW Championship this weekend against Jon Moxley, another former WWE Superstar. Brodie Lee recently stole the belt from Moxley, and he is saying that the former ‘Lunatic Fringe’ will have to earn it back at AEW Double or Nothing.

Brodie Lee’s Wishlist

If Brodie Lee defeats Moxley he has a ton of potential opponents going forward, and the Exalted One gave his list of preferred names on the AEW roster. “The list is so long. A guy like Kenny Omega, probably? Darby Allin, Jungleboy, Cody Rhodes…the list is so wide so it’s hard to choose.

Lee would elaborate further, “even the Proud and Powerful, [Chris] Jericho all those guys in the Inner Circle. I don’t want to come off like ‘oh you know everybody’ but like literally almost everybody on the roster is a fun matchup to me, it’s all fresh, it’s all new.”

The Exalted One would finish by saying that Kenny Omega is at the top of the list, and that he could have a big time matchup with the ‘best bout machine.’ “A guy like Kenny Omega is probably at the top of the list, o have that crazy big time matchup.”

Would you like to see Brodie Lee vs Kenny Omega? Let us know in the comments

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AEW star and leader of the Dark Order Brodie Lee recently appeared on SiriusXM’s Busted Open Radio. The former WWE Superstar would discuss a litany of topics from his short time with the All Elite promotion, as well as leaving him WWE earlier this year.

The now Exalted One will be challenging for the AEW Championship this weekend against Jon Moxley, another former WWE Superstar. This is the first main event singles bout for Brodie Lee in a long time, and he would describe how he wasn’t getting these opportunities in WWE, which ultimately led to him leaving the company.

“That’s the main reason why I didn’t want to be in WWE anymore, it’s because I knew those opportunities weren’t coming” Brodie Lee would begin. “No matter how hard I scratched and clawed, no matter what I proved? They weren’t coming. I wasn’t one of the chosen ones. So now here I am, I’m creating [those opportunities] myself.”

Brodie Lee would elaborate further, saying “I know I’m great at professional wrestling, I know I deserve these spots. So now I have to show up and prove that to other people. So now there’s a certain pressure on me, because there’s nobody to blame anymore [other than myself].”

The Exalted One would then discuss his opponent at Double or Nothing this weekend, Jon Moxley. “It’s a wonderful, very freeing feeling to be in that spot. And to do it with Jon Moxley? It’s even better because we’ve done it in EVOLVE, we’ve done it in FCW and we’ve done it in WWE. And now? We’re going to do it at AEW Double or Nothing. I think it’s 10 years? We’ve wrestled multiple times around the world. So, this is a very cool opportunity to have and like I said I’m gonna make him [Moxley] earn it back [the AEW Championship] because I have something to prove.”

Who do you think will be leaving Double or Nothing this Saturday with the AEW Championship? Let us know in the comments

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Brodie Lee has become a prominent figure in AEW programming since his debut in March and some of his promos have created buzz on the internet due to their resemblance with the habits of his former boss, Vince McMahon.

However, the former Luke Harper is saying that while he has heard the talks and speculations about his work, the similarities are not intentional.

Lee recently appeared on Busted Open Radio and when asked about his promos, he claimed that he has no reason to hate WWE or Vince McMahon:

“Look, you take them however you want, I happen to be a fan of mafia movies, so that’s the way the character is portrayed for me. I believe the leadership style, the results speak for themselves. So, you can take it anyway you want.

“Trust me, I hear you. I hear everybody. None of that is intentional.” said Brodie Lee. “I have no reason to hate WWE, no reason to hate Vince McMahon, nothing like that. You take it how you want.”

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The former WWE star also commented on the fan notion that he is upset with WWE for his mistreatment, saying that he wasn’t upset and instead he just wanted to wrestle.

Brodie Lee explained that he is a professional wrestler and he wanted to wrestle while he still had the opportunity because he will not be able to do this forever.

The former WWE star is set to challenge AEW World Champion Jon Moxley for his title at the upcoming Double Or Nothing PPV on May 23.

All Elite Wrestling has announced new matches for their upcoming Double or Nothing pay-per-view.

First up is the likely main event of this show, which will be AEW World Heavyweight Champion Jon Moxley defending the title against Brodie Lee. AEW set up this contest during on Wednesday’s episode of Dynamite that saw Moxley beat Frankie Kazarian in a non-title match. 

The Dark Order attacked Moxley after the contest. Lee hit Moxley with a discus lariat. He then cut a promo about how he is just here to answer the bounty that Moxley put on his head last week.

Brodie said that there is no one here to save Moxley. Lee then challenged Moxley to a World Title Match at Double or Nothing, which Moxley accepted. The Dark Order beat down Moxley once again.

Also set for this show is a singles match between MJF and Brodie Lee as well as a Casino Ladder Match for future AEW World Championship shot. 

AEW Double or Nothing Card

The AEW Double or Nothing pay-per-view event will take place on Saturday, May 23, 2020 in Jacksonville, Florida at Daily’s Place and will be held in front of no fans on a closed set. 

The event is expected to begin at 8 p.m. ET will be available for purchase via BR Live, iN DEMAND cable operators, DirecTV, DISH. AEW fans outside the United States can order via the FITE streaming service. Here is the updated card: 

• AEW World Heavyweight Champion Jon Moxley vs. Brodie Lee
• Cody Rhodes vs. Lance Archer – AEW TNT Title Tournament Finals
• Jungle Boy vs. MJF
• TBA vs. TBA – Casino Ladder Match for future AEW World Championship shot

What are your thoughts on this match being added to the card? Sound off in the comment section.

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