NWA personality Aaron Stevens has spoken about the “virus” of wrestlers who have been thrust into positions they are not properly suited for.
Stevens is best known for his WWE tenure as Damien Sandow and his spin-off character Damien MizDow. During his run with the company, he became a WWE Tag Team Champion and held the Money in the Bank contract in 2013.
A Virus Plaguing Wrestling
A veteran of the industry with over two decades to his name, Stevens has seen plenty in the wrestling business. Speaking on the Insight podcast, Stevens addressed what he sees as a major problem in the business today.
“This is a virus plaguing the wrestling industry today. There are a lot of people who are borderline untrained. There was a basic skeleton of what you had to have at a minimum to be able to get into the business and get opportunities in major companies. And the standard, across the board, has fallen extremely low. There are a few amazing [wrestling] schools out there. OVW’s still there.
Speaking about the NWA’s plans, Stevens made his goals abundantly clear with the promotion.
“We want to help bring the standard up again of what wrestling is.”
Keeping an Audience Engaged
For Stevens, comprehensive skills cover much more than what a wrestler does from bell to bell. On the podcast, Stevens spoke about the importance of keeping fans hooked from the moment they walk in front of an audience.
“How do we keep rooting interest? It’s how we dress when we come through the curtain. What colors do we wear? How do we walk? What do we do when they first see us? These are things that at NWA we’re starting to instill to try and train people to not only be good television wrestlers but really be good professional wrestlers in general.
“Because there’s not much of a difference between working a live crowd and TV. When you work TV, yes, you have to be conscious of where the cameras are. But in terms of your timing, letting people appreciate what you are doing as an artist, there’s that element that’s missing [today.]”
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The days are getting darker. The winds are getting colder and that can only mean one thing.
The Holidays are coming!
Each year, WWE makes sure to air a Holiday episode, complete with Christmas trees and other sights associated with the most wonderful time of the year.
Countless Superstars and personalities have donned the iconic red and white suit of Santa Claus himself, but not all did so with the best of intentions.
Here are five Santas from wrestling who will be getting coal in their stocking this Christmas.
5: Damien Sandow
Damian Sandow’s 2013 ended with him on the naughty list after losing to the World’s Strongest Santa Mick Foley.
For Damien Sandow, 2013 could be best described as a ‘mixed year.’
After winning the SmackDown Money in the Bank contract, Sandow seemed on the cusp of becoming World Heavyweight Champion, but failed in his cash-in attempt on John Cena.
By December, Sandow had fallen down the card dramatically and played the role of ‘evil Santa’ on the December 23, Raw.
Facing off against the World’s Strongest Santa Mark Henry, Sandow had little chance, and what started as a promising year for the intellectual ended on a dud.
4: Bubba Ray Dudley
Tajiri used a festive red mist to defeat Bubba Ray Dudley in a Santa Vs. Santa match in 2001.
For much of the Invasion storyline, Bubba Ray and D-Von Dudley were key players in the Alliance and would hold the WWF and WCW World Tag Team Titles.
Even after the Alliance was defeated, the Dudleys remained, and Bubba would don the iconic red suit for the Christmas Eve Raw.
Facing off against SanTa-jiri, Bubba earned himself on the naughty list with his heel antics throughout the match.
To their credit, both men would put on an entertaining match despite their costumes, and Bubba even used some Santa-themed taunts to rile the crowd.
In the end, Tajiri’s mist (festive red of course!) would give the Japanese Buzzsaw the win in a highly-entertaining match.
3: Bobby Heenan
Bobby Heenan tried to reveal s hocking secret while dressed as Santa Claus.
Rightly considered one of the greatest heel managers in wrestling history, Bobby Heenan earned himself a spot on the naughty list countless times with his actions.
On Christmas Day in 1989, Heenan took to Prime Time Wrestling for what he called his ‘Santa Claus Shoot,’ in which he declared to the world that Kris Kringle isn’t real.
No doubt breaking the hearts of children watching, Heenan’s rant was cut short by Roddy Piper, who told the kids Santas is real, and pushed and prodded the famed manager.
Heenan, in typical fashion, tried to talk his way out of being beaten up by Piper, and we imagine that The Brain got coal in his stocking the next year.
Of course, this Santa suit wouldn’t be the only costume Heenan would don on-screen, but his other, more iconic outfit, would be that of a weasel.
2: Xanta Claus
Xanta Claus, played by Balls Mahoney, showed that everybody has a price for the Million Dollar Man.
For In Your House 5: Seasons Beatings, Santa Claus took a break from a busy December to appear for the World Wrestling Federation, handing out presents with Savio Vega.
Confronting Million Dollar Men Ted DiBiase in the ring, it seemed the numbers were in the good guys’ favor until the unthinkable happened.
Santa Claus sold out!
Attacking Vega and aligning with DiBiase, the man was now Xanta Claus (hailing from the South Pole,) a pretender to the role who had been paid off by DiBiase.
Xanta’s one and only match would come on the Superstars of Wrestling show on December 19, defeating Scott Taylor, but the character would last a few weeks after Christmas.
Years later, Xanta would return to WWE, but under his more recognizable name as Balls Mahoney, and his actions showed that everyone has a price for the Million Dollar Man.
1: John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield
Like Damien Sandow at the start of this list, 2005 was not the best year for John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield.
In April, his ten-month-long reign as WWE Champion ended at the hands of John Cena, ushering in Cena’s rise to the top of wrestling, and the Texan would fail to regain the gold.
That December, JBL donned a camouflaged Santa outfit for that year’s Tribute to the Troops in Baghdad, and berated the troops for the
Complaining about having to use a porta-potty for his rosy backside and the lack of Dom Perignon for his reindeer, and even threatened to cancel Christmas.
JBL’s Santa didn’t stop there, threatening to cancel all holidays (even Bastille Day!) but his plans were thwarted by WWE’s resident Santa, Mick Foley.
Facing off in a match to determine the true Santa of WWE, Foley got the win with a literal bag of tricks and Mr. Socko.
JBL’s berating of the troops was certainly not becoming of Jolly Ol’ St. Nick, and when you consider his actions as a character (and his history of hazing and bullying) JBL has a lifetime spot on the naughty list.
A former WWE superstar has announced his retirement but some think it may be a ruse.
The wrestling business can be unforgiving. Wrestlers are constantly putting their bodies on the line to entertain fans. The risks are very real and in some cases, the action has led to debilitating injuries or worse.
In the case of one former WWE star, the feeling is the juice simply isn’t worth the squeeze anymore.
Damien Sandow Retires?
Former WWE Superstar Damien Sandow (Aron Stevens)
Aron Stevens, better known to WWE fans as Damien Sandow, was beaten by Trevor Murdoch at NWA Alwayz Ready, which was built as Stevens’ final match.
Ahead of the match, Stevens said the following about leaving the wrestling business in an Instagram post.
“This match against Trevor Murdoch at Alwayz Ready, my swan song as it were, not only marks the finale of an unparalleled wrestling career but the dawn of a new age.
“When I first left wrestling, the business experienced one of the biggest lulls in its history. Since returning, my presence has not only proven a blessing to fans everywhere but the entire industry has been better off because I was a part of it.
“After June 11th I will keep the wrestling fans, all staff, the competitors, and the entire industry in my thoughts and prayers going forward as they all proceed without me. Thank you.”
Some are questioning whether or not Stevens is actually retiring. There is a feeling among the wrestling community that this could be part of a storyline.
Time will tell whether or not this retirement is legit.
Former WWE star Damien Sandow did not get a lot of spotlight moments in WWE but he made the most out of the stories given to him. There was a point during his run where he was one of the most over acts in the roster.
However, his run was bogged down with many missed opportunities as well and probably the biggest fail of his WWE career was his failed Money In The Bank cash-in attempt in 2013.
Sandow opened up about the decision from WWE management during his new interview with WrestlingInc and the Intellectual Savior of the Unwashed Masses revealed what the officials had told him about it:
“Yeah, I wasn’t wasn’t happy about it, but I talked to a very high-ranking official, not Vince, but in the family, and [it was] pretty much, ‘look, we’re going up against Monday Night Football and the World Series. We need this. You have three segments.’
OK, so I knew what I had to do. “said Damien Sandow,” In the long term, I was frustrated, but in the immediate, I had to worry about going on TV and get the ratings up and we did.”
The former Impact Wrestling star went on to explain that his frustration was not so much with the immediate decision for the Money In The Bank contract but the fact that the company did not have any plans for him afterwards.
Damien Sandow won the Money In The Bank during the PPV of the same name in July 2013. He went on to hold the briefcase for several months before he unsuccessfully cashed in his contract on John Cena in October, making him the first person in the history to have an unsuccessful Money In The Bank cash in.
Aron Stevens Teases Debut Of ‘The Millennial Slayer’
Following his return at the aforementioned indy show this weekend, Stevens took to social media to release a promo teasing his actual return to the ring at the Don Kolov Arena, Mississauga next Saturday, July 13th.
“Well, you might as well hear it from me first,” Stevens started in the promo (see below). “I’m here in Toronto at [the] Battle Arts Academy. I attended a wrestling show and I had an epiphany. I’ve been gone for two and a half years. Look what’s happened to the world, look what’s happened to the business. The world needs me and the business needs me.”
He concluded, “So tonight, ‘The Millennial Slayer’ was born. Stay tuned.”
The date is selected! Our inaugural Battle Arts PRO show will be July 13 2019 @ the Don Kolov Arena, Mississauga. Stay tuned for marketing & press conference info. Our first BIG announcement is the RETURN OF ARON STEVENS fka Damian Sandow #ProWrestling#ProfessionalWrestling
Former WWE/Impact Wrestling star Damien Sandow, real name Aaron Rex, recently spoke with Chris Van Vliet while in Los Angeles where he spoke about a wide range of topics.
During the interview, Sandow spoke about potentially signing with AEW (All Elite Wrestling), which officially launched last month.
“Right now I know I have a pretty busy summer coming up. I don’t know where I would fit time in,” Sandow stated. “Also, the thing is I haven’t been in a ring in almost two years.”
Sandow would then question if he thinks he can get into the ring and perform after not working a match in two years. He does think he could but would want to get in there while being in front of a live audience to see how he feels and make sure he protects his opponent.
The pro wrestler turned actor would continue by stating that he doesn’t think the Monday Night Wars will reignite within two weeks of AEW running shows but knows they have the financial backing and got the talent.
“I really do wish that they succeed and kind of bring wrestling back. Cody and I have talked extensively about the business, everything in the past, his ideas. What he believes makes a good wrestling show and what makes good wrestling and I think that’s a really good idea.” He added that he thinks it’s going to be really interesting.
Damien Sandow made a name for himself during his tenure in WWE as a solid in-ring performer and as a consummate team player. Whether it was portraying the character of Sandow as the “Intellectual Savior of the Unwashed Masses,” teaming with then-Cody Rhodes as part of the Rhodes Scholars or acting as The Miz’s shadow as Mizdow, Sandow was willing to commit himself to every role he was given.
Speaking recently on the ‘Why It Ended with Robbie E’ podcast, Sandow discussed a range of topics including his time impersonating The Miz. He also recalled WWE Chairman Vince McMahon’s reaction to the character.
“All I Could do Was The Best I Could Do”
“Vince called me over and he was like, ‘Did you fall down?’ ‘Yep.’ He goes, ‘Alright, I’ll be the only one that will pull you back. You have a green light.’ That was it.”
“It was positive,” Sandow asserted. “Again, WWE is not my sandbox. If I wanted to have creative control, I’d start my own wrestling company. All I could do was the best I could do. There’s no ill feelings toward anybody. There’s no complaining, no ‘woe is me, woe is me.’”
He continued, saying, “Frankly, the reason why Mizdow was over so much is because, again, I was given something consistent to do. They knew what they got with me. Whatever would be given to me, I don’t think was a question as to whether it would succeed or not; however, they chose to go with different people post-Mizdow, too. There’s nothing I can do. I had no known enemies. No one gave me a reason and you know what? I really don’t care what the reason is because life goes on and that’s what you have to do in order to not lose sleep at night.”
Mizdow was a popular act during its time in WWE, with Sandow getting cheered and entertaining people worldwide as he assisted The Miz, whether it was as a tag team partner or just to ringside.
Did you enjoy Mizdow during its time, or were you a bigger fan of his time as the “Savior of the Unwashed Masses”?
Aaron Steven Haddad, better known to WWE fans as Damien Sandow, has revealed a new look. The former “Intellectual Savior Of The Masses” is now sporting a clean-shaven appearance these days.
In April of 2017, Sandow announced he was leaving Impact Wrestling and taking a sabbatical from sports entertainment. He has specifically stated he is not retired, however, only wishing to take a break from the wrestling industry.
“Ending on this note is not a bad thing,” he said. “I’m not saying that I’m never going to get in the ring again, but this is pretty cool and I’d much rather have people remember me for all the good stuff.”
He took to Twitter shortly after the comments and reaffirmed he was not retiring, however.
“I never said retirement,” Sandow Tweeted. “I’m just doing some other stuff for a while. One thing I will never do is lie to you guys.”
One promotion which has shown interest in bringing Sandow back to pro wrestling is Billy Corgan’s National Wrestling Alliance. Corgan and Sandow worked together briefly in Impact from 2016-17.
“I am not retired,” Sandow reiterated again on Twitter after leaving Impact. “@lmpactWrestIing was some of the most fun I have had in my career, great company. Just exploring other opportunities.”
One of those opportunities appears to be writing. Sandow is due to publish a book on his life after wrestling soon.
Former WWE Superstar Damien Sandow (Aron Stevens) was Sean Waltman’s guest on the latest episode of the X-Pac 12360 podcast. Sandow spoke with X-Pac about his acting career, his future in wrestling and much more. Here are the highlights of what he said about:
Landing his latest movie role:
“I essentially just walked into this casting directors office and it was really strange. I had about two or three previously (Hollywood Meetings) and so I kind of knew. You go in, you sit, you talk about yourself blah blah blah. Shake hands walk out the door, you know on to the next thing… So this guy comes walking in and he goes,” Are you, Aron?” I said, “Yeah.” “Congratulations you’ve just been hired for your first Lions Gate movie.” But I hadn’t auditioned yet so I go, “What?” … the next day I was on set which was a cool experience.“
His future in wrestling:
“ I assure you the boots are not burnt. You know, will I ever lace them up again? Like I don’t know. And see one of the things is like I’m a very transparent person especially with the fans … You know I’m not going to lie and say oh I’ll be back. You know I don’t know if I’ll be back maybe I will maybe I won’t you know. But the one thing is I miss the interaction with the fans, I miss the crowds, and I miss being able to kind of like entertain you know. Just put these weird twists on characters I genuinely do miss that. But again where I’m at in life right now it’s just kind of taken me in a different direction not to say that I won’t end up in a ring again.”
Who created the Damien Sandow character:
“There is no one I respect more than Rip Rogers. You know and in terms of the mind, that man has for the business… In terms of like just how he lays it out in just a simplistic way. And had it not been for Rip Rogers I would have never been the intellectual savior (Damien Sandow) because he, he just taught me how to again simplify everything.”
The backstage reaction to him creating the Miz Stunt Double character on the fly:
“I remember Tyson Kidd of all people who is a good buddy of mine and an awesome guy. He goes, “Did you just put the figure four on the invisible man when Miz did?” I go, “Yup.” He goes, “ That was the greatest thing I’ve seen on the show (Monday Night RAW) in a long time.” And I just said,” Well you know what, watch next week.” After a couple weeks like Vince( McMahon) was like, “ Well I noticed you are mimicking Miz?” “Yup.” “Do whatever you want if it gets too overboard I’ll pull you back. And I just went, “ Okay.”
– Several fans wrote in to tell us WWE heavily edited the opening segment of Monday’s RAW, which saw Roman Reigns receive
a thunderous negative reaction from the rowdy Orlando crowd. Several minutes of booing and negative chants were removed.
– As noted earlier, Aron Rex (formerly Damien Sandow) is gone from Impact Wrestling. He provided this update, asserting that he is not retiring and will explore his options.
I am not retired. @lmpactWrestIing was some of the most fun I have had in my career, great company. Just exploring other opportunities. ✌️
“I don’t know if this is it for me, because I’m no longer with Impact.” – Aron Rex
This past weekend at the WrestleCon event from Orlando, former WWE Superstar Damien Sandow (Aaron Stevens) announced that he’s done with Impact Wrestling.
Aron Stevens Wrestling Career
Real name Aron Steven Haddad, the former Damien Sandow was signed to WWE developmental in 2002 just two years after beginning his career. He wrestled with Ohio Valley Wrestling until 2007 when he was released. He worked on the indies and in Puerto Rico before once again signing with WWE developmental in 2010. After 2 years wrestling in Florida, Damien Sandow was finally called up to the main roster in 2012, 10 years after signing his first developmental deal.
He was released by WWE in 2016, despite having amassed some popularity after having been the Miz’s comical side kick for a period. He competed as Aron Rex briefly in TNA, including debuting a brand new version of his character in the video below.
Former WWE Superstar Damien Sandow made his TNA debut during Thursday night’s live episode of Impact Wrestling from Orlando.
Introduced as TNA’s latest free agent signing, it was announced that he will now be going by the name Aron Rex. He cut a promo talking about wanting to prove himself as a top star in TNA.
Later in the show after TNA Champion Bobby Lashley defeated James Storm, Rex came out and had a stare down with the champion.
Former WWE star Damien Sandow briefly spoke with Rolling Stone ahead of his TNA debut on tonight’s Impact Wrestling. Here are some highlights of what Sandow said about:
His negotiations with the company:
“I really was not planning on signing with anybody this soon, I was serious about that. But the way the conversations went with several TNA officials, and the strong feeling of a family atmosphere, really made me want to explore the possibility of getting in the ring sooner than I expected.”
Why he signed with TNA:
“TNA just seemed like the perfect spot for me. They are a growing company with a proven track record. I really believe that they have their finger on the pulse of what the audience wants, and they will gear their product towards that.”
Looking forward to working with the TNA roster:
“I am just looking forward to showcasing myself in a way that I have not been in the past. There is so much talent at TNA that I just can’t name one person that I really want to face over another. It’s just a pleasure for me to have creative freedom and continue to work with talented supportive people.”
Catch Damien Sandow’s TNA debut tonight on Impact Wrestling.
Also announced for tonight is TNA KOTM Champion James Storm vs. TNA World & X Division Champion Bobby Lashley, and tag team action with EC3 & Eddie Edwards taking on Moose & Mike Bennett.
We will have results and news from tonight’s show later, plus any spoilers that are taped after Impact ends. TNA will be taping their final episodes before Bound For Glory this week in Orlando.
Here’s a recap video from last week’s Impact to catch up:
Former WWE superstar Damien Sandow and Best of the Super Juniors winner Will Ospreay have been booked to appear for Wrestle Culture Pro Wrestling on July 27th/28th.
Tickets for the events are available to purchase now through: http://shop.whatculture.com/product/wcpw-live-july-27th-28th
Big Damo
Rampage Brown
Joe Coffey
El Ligero
Martin Kirby
Jason “The Primate” Prime
Joe Hendry
While it is still early days for the Wrestle Culture Pro Wrestling experiment the talent that they have pulled from the booming British scene coupled with their international reach on Youtube could prove to be hugely successful.
Former WWE Superstar Sandow’s recently spoke with SI’s Extra Mustard blog about his departure from the company, his what’s next for him.
As a free agent, Sandow has already begun making the media rounds and taking independent bookings. Regarding a possible return to WWE one day down the road, he gave an optimistic “You never, ever say never” Right now, he’s field opportunities not just in the wrestling business, but also in television and film. He’s got a strong management team that is guiding him through these new waters and will be selective in picking his next project.
While WWE never fully got behind him despite being incredibly over with the audience, he is very grateful to WWE’s fans. WWE has a lot of control over how their performers are portrayed. All he could do was give his best effort and he won people over organically.
“I have accomplished everything I want to accomplish. In the entertainment business, we aspire to entertain people. We entertain by our performances. There is an absolutely an athletic element to the WWE and the performances in the WWE. But I look back at my career and feel the spectrum of emotions I have extracted from the audience in a fairly short time. I can say it was a job well done, and now is time to move onto the next thing.”
Former WWE Superstar Damien Sandow took Twitter questions from fans last night to bring awareness to the Muhammad Ali Center in Louisville, KY after being named a lifetime member in 2015. Here are the highlights:
– Last night on RAW, AJ Styles welcomed John Cena to the New Era by turning on him and realigning with The Club. The swerve angle was easily the best part of the show and sets up a dream feud between Cena and Styles. After putting on two stellar PPV main event matches against Roman Reigns, it looked like Styles was on the verge of being rotated out of the main event picture. A hot program with John Cena is not a bad place to land. Styles tweeted the following on Tuesday morning, embracing his new heel role:
Did the #TheClub make you mad last night on #RAW? Good!
– Speaking of John Cena, his short-lived “Pabst Blue Ribbon” t-shirt is now arriving to fans who ordered it from WWEShop.com over the weekend before it was pulled. As seen on RAW, the replacement shirt features the same caricature of Cena, without the Pabst styling.
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– Former WWE Superstar Damien Sandow (now known as Aaron Stevens) appeared on Vince Russo’s The Swerve podcast this week. Part 1 is available now at PodcastOne.com. Of course, Sandow spoke about his time in WWE and the frustrating situation that ultimately led to his release.
– Rolling Stone has published an exclusive interview with former WWE Superstar Damien Sandow, who spoke in-depth about his release from the company, the outpour of fan support on social media and much more. Rolling Stone has been killing it lately with their wrestling coverage and this interview is no exception. When asked if he was surprised to be let go by WWE, Sandow said:
“Not really. I had some conversations with them before, where I had said that I think, as a character, we had gone through the gamut. What more could I do with that character? Some people say, “This company should have done this, or that.” No, the company gave me a platform, and I maximized my opportunity. That’s all I can ask for. “
– Speaking of Sandow, he’ll be wrestling Colt Cabana on June 11th for the WrestlePro/Global Force event from Keyport, NJ.
Damien Sandow was arguably one of the most surprising releases during last week’s “Black Friday” firing spree. His likability and ability to get over on his own werenassets that not everybody on the roster can boast about. While Dave Meltzer noted this week that he knew about Sandow’s pending release prior to WrestleMania, the WWE locker room was said to be very surprised at him being cut.
PWInsider reports that Sandow’s release was a matter of WWE officials wanting to “freshen things up.” Especially with all the new talent recently brought in (and more on the way), Sandow unfortunately fell victim to the company’s need to free up space to accommodate the newcomers.
– WWE Extreme Rules is close to sold out. The show takes place on Sunday, May 22nd from the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey
– Damien Sandow is lining up several upcoming bookings. The former WWE Superstar will be appearing for Tier 1 Wrestling‘s August 7th live event from Brooklyn, NY. He’ll also be appearing at the Heroes and Legends VII convention on Saturday, October 22nd from the Allen County Memorial Coliseum in Ft. Wayne, Indiana.
– During an appearance on Jim Ross’ Ross Report podcast, Jonathan Coachman revealed that he’s working with ESPN on a “30 For 30” documentary on WWE’s ill-fated XFL football league.
– Damien Sandow will be appearing at the June 11 GFW – WrestlePro event in Keyport, New Jersey with Hornswoggle and Zeb Colter, who were also released from WWE last week.
– Next Monday will see the season finale of The Edge & Christian Show air on the WWE Network.
– In a new WWE web poll, 60% voted for Cesaro as the most deserving of a WWE IC Title shot against The Miz. Sami Zayn took 24% of the vote while Kevin Owens had the rest.
– Expect WWE to have a strong presence at the NBCUniversal Upfronts in NYC on May 16.
– WWE stock was up 1.96% on Friday, closing at $17.13 per share.
– Damien Sandow tweeted the following comments on his WWE departure:
Ah, the old wrassler question. I am going to say what I’ve said before which is I am a trained wrestler. I trained at both FCW and NXT. In Tampa and Orlando respectively. YES I have trained with my husband. Yes. I have wrestling boots. Yes I have more gear than some of the female wrestlers that are currently on TV (the whole “always be prepared and never look anything but the part on TV”…that’s in me). I was hired as a wrestling talent. Things went a different way. When I got hired in 2011 they were looking for different things. I was an athletic model…there were more of us than independent girls. Now that’s changed quite a bit. So maybe I don’t fit into this current crop of talent? But I never say no, because I don’t like to put my foot in my mouth. I don’t make those decisions though. We all express that and people still don’t seem to understand that a lot of things are not in our control as talent. All I can do is make suggestions and work really hard on ideas which I have done many times already. I am a jack of many trades. Someday maybe I’ll share some on camera work with you guys. But not today. So I guess, that answer will have to do for now. Check back with me in a little while though. You never know what might happen.
